We kicked things off by diving straight into the most controversial aspect of Barnum’s legacy: his use of hoaxes. Was he a liar, a con man, or something else entirely? Nate immediately framed him not as the ultimate salesman, but as the "ultimate showman," which set the stage for a fascinating debate.

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